Sean: From going into Silicon Valley and maybe you realize some things while you’re there. I want to know how that led to you deciding, okay, I’m going to be a coach and I’m going to be an executive coach, and this is what I’m going to be doing.
Jason: Yeah. I think it was over time. I realized the channel and it was. Is that it was really hard to find a culture and a team that I both loved and was successful. And it was really hard to do that. And so I went to some startups and they weren’t that successful. And then one of them went public and did well, but it was a challenge because I had to work remotely and it just felt pretty distant in the organization overall.
And then I ended up going to HP because I thought, well, I’d never worked inside of a super large company like that before. And I thought, well, that might be interesting. And then I found it was a lot of politics. And a lot of the other challenges that were really hard to ultimately manage. And I was like, I’m not, I didn’t really enjoy it.
And so I started to think to myself, like, okay, I love working with people and I love helping them. And I’m really good at that part of my job. Why, why couldn’t I do this on my own? Right. And so I decided to look at it in terms of like, well, where would I start? And I was really good on the relationship side.
So I actually started something that I don’t really do now, which is just helping people build relationships and like their social lives. I just thought, well, I have a full-time job. Why don’t I throw out a way to build relationships and help people? And if I could do that and I could sell that. I then know I can move and do it in a business setting.
And then I would just sort of iterate it and then go all in. So I found someone else who had a business, who I had met and I was like, well, if I develop all this stuff and give it to you, right. You’ll use our network and everything else. And we’ll just split everything 50-50. And I thought, well, that’s great.
Because then my startup costs are zero. Right. And I could see how this could play out and that’s what I did. And then I tried that and the person really didn’t want to go in the direction I wanted to. And then I started to network with people that were successful business people. And it was like, well, why don’t I try this out?
And get some people that were really high level and that were having some really big problems and see in six months how much I could help them and move the needle for them. And that would be the judge for myself. If I like, this is something I want to do. And they went exceptionally well. And then I thought to myself, okay, well, why wouldn’t I want to try doing this full-time.?
And so it just started to evolve from there.