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Sean: What were your indicators during that time? Just think back a little bit. What were the indicators that, Oh, it’s time for me to let go of that sweet, secure, monthly income and take a leap of faith and start my own thing?

Edwin: Yeah. I think one of the main indicators which I mentioned is sort of this restlessness. I guess, figuring things up for me, it was figuring things out quickly.

So when I was in IBM, I understood how the company worked and how the organizations would, and I could see how people moved and created and I’m just like, ah, I don’t want to stay here forever, but it was, it was a good job. So one was restlessness. The other one was seeing opportunity and understanding that, you know, going from an international brand to a small company where this was like, there was like, 15 or 20 people in this company and seeing that they’re running a successful business, just seeing it from a global scale to a small scale, I’m like, Oh, anyone can do this.

And then having that sort of belief in myself that I’m like, you know what? I could figure this out. I don’t know what I’m doing, but I could figure this out. And then having that faith to jump and really conviction and trust in yourself. I mean, this, this is looking back now and I understand, I guess the emotions are, but that’s what it is.

It’s this indication that I could do this. I may not know or fully understand, because I know the younger entrepreneurs nowadays, they kind of want the steps on how to succeed, but there’s no one really at this time, no one was giving me no steps. There was – Twitter wasn’t even around at that time. Right. And Facebook wasn’t even around actually yet YouTube, just no YouTube launched 2007.

So like none of the social media stuff was out there to teach you entrepreneurship. So people actually have a good life right now because there are people giving the sort of step-by-step way to go, but that’s still not guaranteed. Right. Um, so I think, I think it’s just, um, like I said, it’s that self-belief, or self-trust that you could figure things out.

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